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c - RS485: Inappropriate ioctl for device

I am using the following code to access the RS485 slave but I get the error:

Error reading ioctl port (25): Inappropriate ioctl for device

My code is as follows:

#include <linux/serial.h>
#include <sys/ioctl.h>


    int fd = open ("/dev/ttyUSB0", O_RDWR);
    if (fd < 0) {
        printf("Error Opening
");
        exit(0);
    }

    struct serial_rs485 rs485conf;

    /* Enable RS485 mode: */
    rs485conf.flags |= SER_RS485_ENABLED;

    /* Set logical level for RTS pin equal to 1 when sending: */
    rs485conf.flags |= SER_RS485_RTS_ON_SEND;

    /* set logical level for RTS pin equal to 0 after sending: */
    rs485conf.flags &= ~(SER_RS485_RTS_AFTER_SEND);

    /* Set rts delay before send, if needed: */
    rs485conf.delay_rts_before_send = 0;

    /* Set rts delay after send, if needed: */
    rs485conf.delay_rts_after_send = 0;

    /* Set this flag if you want to receive data even whilst sending data */
    rs485conf.flags |= SER_RS485_RX_DURING_TX;

    if (ioctl (fd, TIOCSRS485, &rs485conf) < 0) {
        fprintf( stderr, "Error reading ioctl port (%d): %s
",  errno, strerror( errno ));
        exit(0);
    }

    //TODO read and write

    /* Close the device when finished: */
    if (close (fd) < 0) {
        fprintf( stderr, "Error closing device connection (%d): %s
",  errno, strerror( errno ));
    }

I took the source code from https://www.kernel.org/doc/Documentation/serial/serial-rs485.txt. I am developing my application on the raspberry pi and am connected to the FTDI USB Serial device using Quad RS232-HS chip. What might be the source of the error?

When USB I connect the USB device, output for

dmesg

is as follow:

[16865.640038] usb 3-2: new high-speed USB device number 10 using xhci_hcd
[16865.780365] usb 3-2: New USB device found, idVendor=0403, idProduct=6011
[16865.780367] usb 3-2: New USB device strings: Mfr=1, Product=2, SerialNumber=0
[16865.780369] usb 3-2: Product: Quad RS232-HS
[16865.780370] usb 3-2: Manufacturer: FTDI
[16866.377940] usbcore: registered new interface driver usbserial
[16866.377969] usbcore: registered new interface driver usbserial_generic
[16866.377994] usbserial: USB Serial support registered for generic
[16866.384018] usbcore: registered new interface driver ftdi_sio
[16866.384045] usbserial: USB Serial support registered for FTDI USB Serial Device
[16866.384203] ftdi_sio 3-2:1.0: FTDI USB Serial Device converter detected
[16866.384247] usb 3-2: Detected FT4232H
[16866.384373] usb 3-2: FTDI USB Serial Device converter now attached to ttyUSB0
[16866.384399] ftdi_sio 3-2:1.1: FTDI USB Serial Device converter detected
[16866.384431] usb 3-2: Detected FT4232H
[16866.384727] usb 3-2: FTDI USB Serial Device converter now attached to ttyUSB1
[16866.384751] ftdi_sio 3-2:1.2: FTDI USB Serial Device converter detected
[16866.384786] usb 3-2: Detected FT4232H
[16866.384897] usb 3-2: FTDI USB Serial Device converter now attached to ttyUSB2
[16866.384917] ftdi_sio 3-2:1.3: FTDI USB Serial Device converter detected
[16866.384950] usb 3-2: Detected FT4232H
[16866.385385] usb 3-2: FTDI USB Serial Device converter now attached to ttyUSB3
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I think it might add some value for others facing similar issues in the future to elaborate a bit more on Rodney's answer from a hardware side.

Although I came here looking for the answer to the thread question (why was I getting an ioctl error trying to activate the RS485 mode on pyserial (which I was actually calling from pyModbus) I found the answer to that question above. Plain and simple, and to provide a shorter answer than Rodney's: you can't. You won't be able to activate the RS485 mode on your FTDI because there is no function to use the RTS signal as a drive enable for your RS485 chip.

Some devices, like those using the atmel_serial driver do implement this functionality, but you won't find that many. Digging into this issue you'll find people saying you can write your own driver based on one of those that support the RS485 mode (see, for instance: automatically changing RTS for RS-485 communication, but in my view they are wrong)

Now that you have the bad news, you can ask yourself why would you need to use the RS485 mode? I imagine that, like me, you were trying to establish a half-duplex link between two devices using a two wire RS485 setup (which is surprisingly frequent in many industrial devices where you have a master-slave configuration, where you have one side sending a request for data and the other side duly responding, as you do with Modbus).

If you are looking for a software solution you can still take the RTS signal high and low manually before starting and after finishing transmitting from each side. This solution will work for testing and just for fun in most environments (at least those I tried, it even works with Python on a Raspberry Pi using a GPIO line to control the Drive Enable/~Read Enable signals) but I would not use it if you want to get good reliability. With any non-real time OS there is no warranty you will get the correct timing and some devices are quite picky and will report a timeout error. If you are free to choose both sides (or all of them if you have more than two stations) of the bus you can always increase your tiemout everywhere and hope for the best.

Good news is, as Rodney said, on the FTDI chip you have the TXDEN signal available on pin 13 so you can use that right away. Unfortunately, most cheap USB to serial adaptor PCBs don't have that signal easily accessible on the board. That's what happened to my Sparkfun board. If you are not up for the challenge of attaching a cable directly to the SMD IC you can do what I did: download mprog 3.5 from FTDI, connect to the EPROM, under I/O Controls select TXDEN instead of TXLED and click save to write the updated firmware to the chip. Then you can easily attach a cable to the LED pad and use it as your Drive Enable/~Read Enable signal (see pictures, the scope snapshot shows it works nicely).

Modified FTDI board with TXDEN signal on TXLED

Scope capture of the modified circuit: blue is TX, yellow TXDEN

Lastly, if you are unlucky enough to run into other chips that don't have this option (TXDEN), like the PL2303 you can always go old school and build a hardware TXDEN with a 555 timer (see here: http://www.embeddedsys.com/subpages/resources/images/documents/microsys_art_RS485.pdf). I tested this circuit and it works fine, at least at 9600 bps (note that I had to use a 39K resistor instead of a 3.9K, I think that's a typo but I might be wrong, I did not go into fine details, I just needed something quick and dirty to pair with my FTDI.


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