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eclipse - Remote debug Jetty (no mvn, no plugins)

Past scenario
- Work with Tomcat and start in debug mode and Remote Debug with Eclipse.
- Define a port and connect with eclipse in this debug/remote port.
- Use to debug servers in other hosts/servers

Today scenario
Now, I'm using Jetty and I've try to do the same, but with no success, could anyone help-me with that?
I did not use Maven, and did not want to start Jetty inside from my Eclipse.

Environment:
Windows XP
Java V. 5
Jetty V. 6.1.15

Links:
http:// docs.codehaus.org/display/JETTY/Debugging
This did not help me!
http:// docs.codehaus.org/display/JETTY/Debugging+Jetty+with+Eclipse
http:// neelzone.wordpress.com/2007/06/18/jetty-and-eclipse-integration
These are to start inside Eclipse

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This is what we are adding to our JBoss command line while development:

-Xdebug -Xrunjdwp:transport=dt_socket,address=8787,server=y,suspend=n

Then we launch the eclipse remote debugging and connection to this port.


Update:

To run from jar (standalone) do the following

java -Xdebug -Xrunjdwp:transport=dt_socket,address=8585,server=y,suspend=n -jar start.jar 

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